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wahoo

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 1889 Location: Starfleet Academy
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm being extreme. I can't even spank my dog when she ruins a good cup of coffee with her dirty tongue.
And having core classes that weren't a joke would help. Making English a priority would help. We can't even get the higher level kids to do all of the work in core classes. Adding another required class for kids to fumble through and teachers to water down, so kids will pass so their record stays clean isn't going to help.
Everyone wants to add, add, add...but we aren't even successful with what we have now. Sometimes a conservative approach works. Not the political conservative, but the real definition of conservative.
Just because there's icing on the cake, doesn't mean it's going to taste good! _________________ "Make it so!" Cpt. Jean-Luc Picard
I don't mind admitting my mistakes; I just think you should go first. |
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iteach

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 2322 Location: B-Wood, Baby
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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To be quite honest, I do think this is a good class, but it would be better for those who are learning disabled, etc. More of a life skills class.
I didn't have to take a personal finance class. My parents sat down and taught me how to write checks, balance my check book, etc.
It's just another scenario of teachers having to do what parents should do. _________________ Sister to sister we will always be,
A couple of nuts off the family tree.
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jinglebellrock70

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 445
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's great he's doing anything at all. I have also heard through the grapevine of little South Boston that he has been doing some serious investigation into the budget. I also know that he is going to be talking with teachers and PTOs in the next month or so. I for one would like to understand more about the way things work.
From being at the meeting and reading the accounts of it in the papers, the personal finance class was one of only two things the whole board agreed on once the meeting got rolling. I think they are going to have to work together in order to be successful. |
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haligirl Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I have mixed feeling about the Personal Finance class. I do feel that many students could really use this class; but if it's not offered with college credit, any student working for an advanced diploma won't take it. They need/want to keep up their GPA. The CL (or whatever they are calling them these days) classes or dual enrollment classes carry that extra weight. A student working for an advanced diploma could lose out on being one of the teop 10 by taking a no college level class. Even PE is classified as CL. That was done so that folks could get a 2 year degree while in high school. It was explained to me that not everyone who takes PE gets the college credit; not real sure how that is determined. And while I'm standing on the soap box, Halifax County is one of the few schools in this area who are on block scheduling. GWHS and both Heritage and E.C. Glass chose to not go that route. GW and E.C. Glass both tried block and went back to 6 or 7 classes per day. And for the person who asked someone about implying that HCPS is at the low end of the totem pole, they aren't far from the bottom in my opinion. And I said IN MY OPINION. |
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Tarheel

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 16565 Location: South Boston
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Personal Finance Class Info |
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| Joe wrote: | Suggested Halifax County Schools
Personal Finance Curriculum
One semester class required for graduation taught to 10th, 11th, or 12th grade students covering the following:
Investments
Banking
Credit
Savings
Consumer skills
Insurance
Taxes
Buying a house and car
Budgeting
Jumpstart Coalition 2006
Survey of High School Students
Average score for Virginia students on the Jumpstart Coalition Survey of Financial Literacy is 55%.
Only 5.2% of Virginia students scored a C or better on the Jumpstart Coalition Survey of Financial Literacy.
Conversely, 94% of Virginia students achieved a score of D or lower on the 2006 Jumpstart Coalition Survey of Financial Literacy.
Visa 2005 Survey
of High School Parents
74% of parents ranked developing good personal financial skills as a concern for their childrens futures.
70% of parents surveyed said their child has not had any formal training in money management.
76% said that schools should be required to teach money management skills.
Hartford Financial Services
2007 Survey of College Students
Less than one-quarter of students say they are prepared to deal with financial challenges after graduation.
76% wish they had more help preparing for their financial future
Half of students surveyed say that parents teach them about financial matters.
Additional Compelling Statistics
75% of students admit to making financial mistakes in college
52% of Americans do not review their credit report yearly
36% of Americans do not have a budget
63% of college students acquired a credit card before the age of 19.
53% of college students who have a credit card say that they did not receive appropriate education on the use of a credit card
Current Reality
Financial literacy objectives are assigned to a variety of middle and high school courses.
Financial Literacy objectives are covered in regards to their relationship to designated course objectives.
Financial Literacy objectives are not the focus of instruction.
The Solution
Teach financial literacy objectives in a comprehensive course.
Make financial literacy objectives the focus of instruction.
Ensure that every child receives the financial education they need in order to be a contributing member of society.
Require a course in Personal Finance for every student in Halifax County as a requirement to graduate.
Plan In action
Salem already has a successful curriculum we can mirror.
Institute a study as to how and when we can implement a course for Halifax |
good job Joe! I agree with you on this one...go for it....In fact I know someone who said when they heard about this "I'll teach that class"...if you PM me...I will give you thier name.... _________________ Among natural rights are these: first, a right to life; secondly, to liberty; thirdly to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. ---> Samuel Adams |
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wildhandyman

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 7953
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Personal Finance Class Info |
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| tarheel wrote: | | good job Joe! I agree with you on this one...go for it....In fact I know someone who said when they heard about this "I'll teach that class"...if you PM me...I will give you their name.... |
Heck, the best teacher I could think of for that class would be my much better half. If it weren't for her wisdom and excellent handling of our money we would have been in the poor house long ago. The major impediment to her teaching this class, however, would be that she doesn't have the necessary "paper" to allow her to do so, and that's too bad for the kids. _________________ _________________
I think therefore I am Conservative.
Don't let your brain outrun your Common Sense.
All the government has to offer is what they take from you. |
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wildhandyman

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 7953
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I hate to play hall monitor, but this thread started out with Joe Gasparini (sp?) laying out his excellent plan to teach the "skulls full of mush" some practical skills they will use their whole life (unlike algebra). I think if you want to argue about whether or not you should label a child or use the word dumb to refer to a child you should bring that discussion to another thread. I would rather not see this one discarded in the Hall Of Stupid. _________________ _________________
I think therefore I am Conservative.
Don't let your brain outrun your Common Sense.
All the government has to offer is what they take from you. |
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iteach

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 2322 Location: B-Wood, Baby
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Well, they started it.  _________________ Sister to sister we will always be,
A couple of nuts off the family tree.
~Author Unknown |
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AndyR Site Admin

Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 9846 Location: .5 miles south of the Gobbler's Knob Airport
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| wildhandyman wrote: | | I hate to play hall monitor, but this thread started out with Joe Gasparini (sp?) laying out his excellent plan to teach the "skulls full of mush" some practical skills they will use their whole life (unlike algebra). I think if you want to argue about whether or not you should label a child or use the word dumb to refer to a child you should bring that discussion to another thread. I would rather not see this one discarded in the Hall Of Stupid. |
I took the time to clean up this thread today and split off the off topic posts into a new thread.
It was that or lock it and move it to the Hall of Stupid. _________________ A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will in time produce a people as base as itself.
~Joseph Pulitzer |
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AndyR Site Admin

Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 9846 Location: .5 miles south of the Gobbler's Knob Airport
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Can we try a little harder to stay on topic? Please? Pretty please? _________________ A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will in time produce a people as base as itself.
~Joseph Pulitzer |
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Tarheel

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 16565 Location: South Boston
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| AndyR wrote: | | Can we try a little harder to stay on topic? Please? Pretty please? |
 _________________ Among natural rights are these: first, a right to life; secondly, to liberty; thirdly to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. ---> Samuel Adams |
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johnny reb
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 599 Location: Nathalie, VA
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Are you folks still for this class, not that is going to cost so much? _________________ Sic Semper Tyrannis |
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1093ras Site Admin

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 13045 Location: from Buffalo Junction to Riverdale and back
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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A big chunk of that is one time costs...books, calculators (which I don't understand why the student is not responsible for buying his own, I remember buying one for my daughter for one math class or the other).
I still think it is a very worthwhile project. Implementing it in stages is better than doing nothing at all. _________________ Blessed are they who can give without remembering and take without forgetting
(Author unknown)
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millworker
Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 2001
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody,
Why do the taxpayer have to pay for the stuff? This free and appropriate stuff has gotten out of control. Put the brakes on, somebody. _________________ The lord gives, government taxes it away. |
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1093ras Site Admin

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 13045 Location: from Buffalo Junction to Riverdale and back
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Read the obituary for this wonderful idea on today's GV front page.
Joe, you have my condolences...and my gratitude for proposing it and for voting for it.
Funny thing, on the same front page was a picture and story about the Culinary Arts students.
So now some can cook, some can fight fires, some can fix a race engine, some can study horses or horticulture or nursing or college prep...
but not all of them will have to learn to balance a checkbook, manage credit or invest their money. _________________ Blessed are they who can give without remembering and take without forgetting
(Author unknown)
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